Beam Global (NASDAQ:BEEM) Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call August 13, 2024 4:30 PM ET
Company Participants
Desmond Wheatley – Chairman, President, Chief Executive Officer
Lisa Potok – Chief Financial Officer
Conference Call Participants
Sameer Joshi – HC Wainwright
Andrew Brennan – ROTH Capital
Noel Parks – Tuohy Brothers
Tate Sullivan – Maxim Group
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Beam Global Second Quarter 2024 Operating Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. Please note this event is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Potok, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.
Lisa Potok
Hi, good afternoon and thank you for participating in Beam Global’s second quarter of ‘24 operating results conference call. We appreciate you joining us today to hear an update on our business.
Joining me is Desmond Wheatley, our President, CEO and Chairman of Beam. Desmond will be providing an update on recent activities at Beam followed by a question-and-answer section.
But first, I’d like to communicate to you that during this call, management will be making forward-looking statements, including statements that address Beam’s expectations for future performance and operational results.
Forward-looking statements involve risks and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those statements. For more information about these risks, please refer to the risk factors described in Beam’s most recently filed Form 10-K and other periodic reports filed with the SEC.
The content of this call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, August 13, 2024. Except as required by law, Beam disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any information to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call.
Next, I would like to provide an overview of our financial results for Beam’s second quarter of ‘24. Our second quarter revenues of $14.8 million, increasing 2% over Q1 of ‘24. 31% of our revenue in second quarter was derived from commercial customers.
For the six-month ended June 30th of ‘24, our revenues were $29.4 million. We have a backlog of $11 million, and our pipeline of prospective customers has increased to over $183 million, although we cannot be sure of when or if those prospective orders will turn into actual sales.
We generated a record gross margin for the second quarter in a row with a gross margin of 16%. The margin improved six percentage points compared to Q1 of ‘24. Our gross profits included a $300,000 for non-cash depreciation and intangible amortization, which negatively impacts our profits. Net of these non-cash items, our gross margin was 18%.
For the six-month ended June 30th of ‘24, our gross profit was $3.8 million, or 13% of sales. Our six-month gross profits included a negative impact of $0.6 million for non-cash depreciation and intangible amortization. Our six-month gross profits net of these non-cash items was 15%.
The improvement in our gross margin is primarily because we were able to recognize the engineering design changes to our EV ARC that resulted in cost reductions to our bill of materials as well as labor efficiencies. Additionally, there were reductions in material costs as well as operational improvements and positive margins generated from the acquisition of Amiga.
Our engineering and operations team continue to identify further cost reductions and efficiencies, which along with the support from our Serbian facilities, we believe will improve our gross margins in future quarters.
Then for our operating expenses. For Q2, ’24 we’re $7.1 million compared to $4.5 million in Q1 of ‘24. The $2.6 million increase is primarily related to a $1.8 million expense related to the change in the fair value of the contingent consideration, which is non-cash for the Amiga acquisition.
We also had $300,000 for operating expenses in the quarter for Beam Europe, and then we had $600,000 for commission expenses. Commissions are paid when receivables are collected. Our operating expenses for the six months ending Q2 ‘24 was $11.7 million. These operating expenses included $1.5 million related to the change in the fair value of contingent consideration for the Amiga acquisition, which again is non-cash, and $900,000 for the operating expenses of Beam Europe.
The net loss was $4.9 million for the second quarter of ‘24. The second quarter net loss included non-cash expense items related to depreciation, intellectual property amortization, non-cash compensation, our allowance for bad debt, and the fair value of the contingent consideration expense of $2.8 million in 2024.
Net loss, excluding the non-cash items, would have been $2.1 million, or $0.14 per share for Q2 of ‘24. The net loss was $8 million for the six months ended June of ‘24. The net loss includes non-cash expense items of $3.5 million in ‘24, and the net loss excluding those non-cash items was $4.4 million for the six months ended Q2 of ‘24.
Our cash balance at Q2 of ‘24 was $8.7 million, compared to $5 million at the end of Q1 of ‘24, and this is mainly related to the increased collections from our customers during the quarter. At the end of December 2023, we had cash of $10.4 million. The cash decrease between Q4 of ‘23 and Q2 of ‘24 was primarily due to the cash payments for the acquisition of Amiga of $2.7 million that we did in early Q1 of ‘24.
Our net cash used for operating activities for the period ending Q2 of ‘24 was $100,000. We continue to be debt-free other than some small auto leases and have a $100 million line of credit that’s readily available.
Our working capital of $16 million decreased $7.8 million from Q4 of ‘23 to Q2 of ‘24, mainly due to the accrual of the non-cash contingent consideration for the Amiga acquisition of $5.4 million. This moves to current liabilities as of Q2 of ‘24 from non-current liabilities at Q4 of ‘23. This contingent consideration is a non-cash earn-out based on revenue targets payable with shares of the company’s common stock.
Additionally, the decrease was due to the $2.7 million that I’ve mentioned previously for the cash payment for the Amiga acquisition in early Q1 of ‘24, which was in current liabilities at the end of Q4 of ‘23. Our working capital net of non-cash items was $21.4 million at the end of Q2 of ‘24.
I will now turn the call over to Desmond to provide a business update.
Desmond Wheatley
Thank you, Lisa. And thank you to all — the rest of you for joining this call. Q2 has been another very busy quarter for Beam Global with a whole series of new milestones and records. Since our last earnings call, I’ve personally spent almost half of my time traveling and most of that time in Europe, although I did have a very eventful couple of weeks in Washington, D.C. meeting with leaders on the Hill.
My European travel was largely about meeting new customers and investors, but also very gratifyingly visiting locations where the first EV ARCs produced by Beam Europe have been deployed.
Just to give you an idea of the scope of our new reach, during my latest trip, from which I just returned two weeks ago, I visited Washington, D.C., London, Belgrade, Budapest, Vienna, Larnaca and Nicosia on Cyprus, and Valletta and Gozo on Malta. I wasn’t in any of those locations for fun, although I did have a fantastic time telling the Beam story and promoting our products and our stock to leaders in government, industry, the military, and the investment community.
As diverse as that list of locations may sound, what’s fascinating is that they all have in common, more or less, the same challenges and requirements as we’ve observed and for which we’ve designed a portfolio of fantastic products here in the United States. They all need EV charging faster than traditional methods can provide it. They all need to save money on construction and utility bills. They all have challenges with lack of capacity on the grid, and they’re all very worried about what’s going to happen to transportation, communications, and industry during future potentially very prolonged blackouts.
Beam Global’s products solve for these challenges, and now that we manufacture in the United States and in Europe, we’re servicing the largest addressable markets in the world. In the time since I last spoke to you, we’ve delivered products in the United States to California, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Texas, Ohio, Utah, Hawaii, New York, North Carolina, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Illinois, Iowa, and Nevada. And in Europe, we ship to Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Greece, Romania, Cyprus, Montenegro, and Bosnia.
Over half of our new orders in the second quarter came from brand new customers, expanding our ever-growing customer base. They included two major new California public transportation providers, a global supplier of Advanced Mobility Products and Systems, the Sacramento Municipal Utility District, or SMUD, the U.S. Federal Railroad Administration, and also, importantly, a leader in U.S. data centers who bought our products primarily for energy security and to relieve their lack of capacity on the grid problem, which is an increasingly important area of business for us.
One of the new customers we’re most excited about is the British Ministry of Defense. Not surprisingly, they face the same challenges and opportunities experienced by our largest customer, the United States military. Earlier this year, we were awarded a contract by Crown Commercial Services, which is very similar to the General Services Administration contract we have with the U.S. Federal Government, and that allows the United Kingdom’s government to buy our products without having to go through any further competitive process.
The British Army immediately made use of that contract and purchased 10 EV ARC systems to be deployed on the island of Cyprus at four separate British sovereign military bases. Those EV ARC systems were shipped from our Beam Europe facilities, and the deployments were completed just last week. You may have seen the press release this morning or seen some of the other media coverage on this promoted by the British Army.
I visited those bases during my trip to Cyprus, and I’m very enthusiastic about the future opportunities to do a lot more with the UK military, not only on Cyprus, but I hope at other overseas bases as well. Everyone involved is excited, that the Commander, British Forces Cyprus, who drives an electric Land Rover, now parks that vehicle on an EV ARC every morning when he arrives at work, and all of his driving is now driving on Sunshine, powered by Beam Global Products.
We continue to do some really interesting stuff through our battery division. We were awarded a contract to do a custom industrial battery design for a major multinational conglomerate, and we’re hopeful that these initial design prototypes will lead to production level quantities delivered to them at a later date.
Our specialized battery technology is being placed in wildfire detection systems now being placed in vulnerable wilderness areas, and we’re also developing prototype batteries for a major automotive OEM’s motorsports division.
But in my opinion, the most interesting strategic maneuver for Beam Global since we last talked has been the signing of our first distribution agreement with Jesse Group, a Spanish logistics, engineering, and technology firm which focuses on transportation, energy, aviation, and military applications.
Jesse will distribute our products throughout Spain, Portugal, and the Spanish-speaking Caribbean. They will also provide after-sales service, expanding not only our selling footprint, but also our ability to provide service to our customers in ever larger geographical environments.
As we say in Scotland, the proof is in the pudding, and the pudding in this case is that we just received our first order from Jesse just one week after putting the distribution agreement in place. This purchase order is for EV ARC Systems which will be deployed in the Dominican Republic. I can’t give any more detail on that on this point, but it is nonetheless a significant validation, not only of our relationship with Jesse, but with a broader strategy of adding sales resources which are not directly employed by Beam Global and therefore do not contribute to our overhead expenses.
We intend to expand on this strategy, adding distributors, resellers, and agents across Europe and also across the United States. Up till now, all of our sales have been made through our direct sales team, and they’ve done a fantastic job, but we’ve matured our product and our sales and marketing collateral to a point now where we can engage third parties, train them, and have them expose our products to a much larger audience, often with whom they already have existing relationships, and we do that without adding to our SG&A burden.
Beam Global is performing, and we’re executing solidly on our strategic plan. In Q1 of 2024, we generated more revenue than any first quarter in our history, and our second quarter revenues, while not a record for the quarter, were higher again than the first quarters at $14.8 million. Our gross profits in the first quarter were also higher than at any time in our history, but the Beam team solidly broke that record in the second quarter, generating more gross profits than ever before.
Excluding non-cash items, as Lisa has already discussed, we generated about $2.7 million in gross profit in the first quarter, or approximately 18% gross margin after non-cash items. That’s up from $1.8 million in Q1, or 10.1%. Now that gross margin did not reflect benefit from the 8.25% price increase that we announced last year on about 80% of the EV ARC systems we deployed in the quarter.
Said another way, we still have a lot of positive impact coming from that price increase, which should contribute to further improvements in our gross profitability as we work through the last of the backlog price before they increase.
Our Q2 net losses, excluding non-cash items, were approximately $2.1 million, or around three quarters of our gross profit contribution in the quarter. In the first quarter, the loss was 2 times our gross. In Q2, it was just three quarters. You can see the trend here.
Analysts’ consensus had us at a $0.21 loss per share for the quarter. Our loss, excluding non-cash items, which were not built into their models, was approximately $0.14. So our non-GAAP performance at the bottom line was considerably better than the expectations on the Street. This is a result of our laser focus on profitability as we continue to reduce our cost of goods sold through engineering and operational improvements.
Of course, as our price increase takes full effect, we believe we’ll continue to see further margin improvements and that we’re well positioned to hit that very important milestone. Our models show that if we continue this gross margin improvement on a similar level of revenues and make a few other minor adjustments, we’ll generate positive cash flow.
Exiting the year with a gross margin that’s better than double where it was at the end of Q1 is our goal for 2024. And with operating expenses around where they are right now, that would get us to positive cash flow.
Long term, as we scale, we’ll be looking for gross margins that are significantly higher. The 8.25% price increase, coupled with our further improvements in the second quarter, essentially doubles the 10% gross we reported in the first quarter, and we have further cost improvements identified. So, cash flow is very much on our visible horizon towards the end of 2024, and it’s a major area of focus for us.
As for sales growth, if you take a look at our quarterly filings over the last couple of years, you’ll see that we’ve reported quarter after quarter of eight digit sales, even though we’ve not reported a repeat of some of the very large order sales we made in 2022.
Clearly, not reporting these sorts of sales doesn’t mean that we haven’t been selling, nor does it mean that we haven’t been delivering record numbers of units to customers all over the United States and now internationally. In fact, the value of our purchase orders in the second quarter of 2024 is about 36% higher than they were in the second quarter of 2023.
We continue to work on selling the very large orders too, and I see no reason why we should not be successful in those efforts, though it’s hard to pinpoint, when, because larger sales offer includes more stakeholders and less certainty on timing.
While we have seen and continue to see in our order cadence, our pipeline, which now stands at over $180 million, is the largest in our history. Aside from government business, we’re targeting commercial enterprises such as amusement parks, corporate parks and campuses, sporting events, music and other entertainment values, and other facilities and corporate entities that accommodate tens of thousands of cars each day.
Beyond 2024, we believe that the EV Standard, which we intend to rebrand to BeamSpot, is going to be a meaningful contributor to sales, cash flow and profits as well. Our sales efforts targeting non-government commercial customers bore further fruit in the second quarter with commercial enterprise sales accounting for about 30% of our revenues during that period, up from about 10% in the same period prior year.
It’s interesting to note that our second quarter revenues included about $5 million less federal government contribution than in the second quarter of 2023, and yet, Beam Global Q2 revenues were up from the first quarter. In other words, we were able to make up for some of the time shifts and lumpiness in federal order cadence caused by budget uncertainties and no doubt the upcoming federal election by adding more commercial sales.
This is consistent with our strategy to target both commercial and government sales in both the United States and in Europe, and also to diversify revenue opportunities by adding geographic expansion, but also product offering expansion as we’ve done with batteries and the legacy products which Beam Europe creates. We’ll have more new revenue opportunities as we add BeamSpot, formerly EV Standard, and a couple of other new products which I hope to have out before the end of the year.
Our strategy of adding distributors, resellers and agents will, we believe, further enhance our sales efforts as we target EPCs and others involved in the deployment of grid-tied EV charging with our rapidly deployed and highly scalable solutions. We give them more ways to say yes to their customers while increasing our sales without increasing our overhead costs.
We’ve made fantastic progress on the integration of our European acquisition, and we won our first $1 million European order for EV ARC less than five months after we closed on that transaction, a milestone that took over five years to achieve in the United States.
The legacy business we acquired is also growing and assisting in our efforts to expand our clean technology sales in what is by far the largest market in the world for our products. But we haven’t even begun to realize what I believe will be the tremendous growth in that market.
Our European operations should contribute very favorably to our profitability for several reasons. First, our European team is very good at what they do where the legacy business is concerned. They ran that business profitably prior to the acquisition.
Second, we’re able to produce EV ARC systems much less expensively in Europe than we can in the United States. As we consolidate our financials, those superior gross margins will have a positive effect on our global financials. And there’s another exciting impact. Beam Europe can produce certain components and sub-assemblies of EV ARCs so inexpensively that it actually makes more sense for us to manufacture there and ship those pieces to the United States for final assembly, further reducing our direct costs and improving our gross profits.
For example, we can produce and ship EV ARC base plates from our European operations so much less expensively than it costs us to make them in the US that we estimate that one component alone will contribute 2% to 3% in gross profit improvement. So our European acquisition is not only providing us access to the largest market in the world for our products with a reduced cost basis, but it’s also contributing to cost reductions in our United States operations.
Remember that we paid cash and stock value less than the independently appraised value of the real-estate and other hard assets that we acquired through that transaction. At the same time, I believe that the sellers, now our very talented European leadership, will do fantastically well as a result of becoming part of Beam Global because of the tremendous growth that we see ahead of us.
We have more cash in the bank at the end of the second quarter than we did at the end of the first quarter, and when considering the other components of our working capital balance, I’m confident that sufficient cash to provide for what should continue to be our reducing burn as a result of the continually increasing gross profit contributions described above.
Our ending cash balance was $8.7 million up from $5 million at the end of the first quarter. This improvement in our cash position is largely due to payments coming in on some of our larger accounts. It’s also consistent with something that I’ve often mentioned during these calls, which is that our working capital balance is actually the most important metric when considering Beam Global’s cash health because of our ability to convert inventory, work in progress, and AR into cash in a relatively short period of time.
But of course, the most interesting indicator here is that as our gross profits improve, the ratio of cash going out to cash coming in also improves. We’ll continue to see a lot of variation in cash on the balance sheet because so much of its driven by the types of orders we receive and where we are in the process of executing on those orders.
Clearly, when we get a large order and we have to produce materials and components to execute on that order, we should see a reduction in cash with a corollary to that being that when those larger orders are delivered, we get paid and our cash goes back up. In the event that we get a very large order, and we are always aiming for those, we have our $100 million credit line, which is still untapped. But with all other things being equal, our improving gross profits are reducing the burden on our cash.
As I said, working capital is probably the most informative metric on our balance sheet. But when looking at working capital, you also need to be considerate of non-cash impacts. Our Q2 working capital ending balance includes over $5 million of non-cash items related to the contingent consideration for the Amiga acquisition earn out. Excluding that non-cash impact, you can see that our working capital balance was just $600,000 less in the second quarter than it was in the first quarter. This is another very strong indicator that we’re taking the right steps to move us towards positive cash flow.
We’ve made tremendous progress on the development of our curbside charging product, the streetlight replacing EV Standard or laterally BeamSpot’s as it’s been rebranded. We’ve almost all the components in-house now for this new product, and our team in Chicago has completed the assembly of the electronics and batteries in the column of the BeamSpot.
We’re preparing the location in San Diego where the first system will be installed, and I expect that we will stand up the first prototypes in the next couple of months, at which time we will start to aggressively market this product globally. We also intend to install in Europe. I believe it has the potential to be our biggest seller.
As a result of our excellent recent acquisitions, we’re now also looking at some of the largest opportunities we’ve ever confronted, and though those are not yet closed, I personally believe that we will win one or more of them. We’re also working on other new product offerings, which like all of our solutions, are in response to very real prospective customer requirements. I look forward to introducing one or more of these in the coming quarters.
Shifting gears slightly, there’s been a good deal of largely unfounded negativity and uncertainty surrounding EVs this year. The EV Charging industry has suffered as a result. There have been one or two bankruptcies and some very public retreats from the deployment of charging infrastructure.
We’ve seen some debate at the regulatory level in an election year, and we’ve seen the media run with stories about the heat, the cold, and the performance of EV charging stations. I know that I’m not alone in believing that none of this uncertainty or negativity will impact the long-term inevitability of the electrification of transportation, and that solutions like ours are going to continue to attract capital and generate great returns for investors over time, and as the business matures and scales.
There’s a strong case to be made that the automakers will find a way to manufacture EVs more profitably than their current internal combustion engine models. It’s also a fact that approximately half of traditional car company employees are paid to make engines and gearboxes.
Electric vehicles have no engines or gearboxes. The harsh reality is that car companies will be able to operate with half as many employees in the near future making cars, which are like computers on wheels. Just like computers, those cars will get cheaper by leaps and bounds while offering more and more functionality to the consumer.
No car company will cling to the old technology in the face of these radical new competitive advantages. Just note Volkswagen’s recent $5 billion investment in Rivian. Government tailwinds like Europe’s banning of diesel and gasoline vehicles in 2035, and by the way, California and many other states have the same or similar bans, and all the other regulations which are making polluting harder and more expensive will continue to play a role, but actually consumer choice and profitability at the car companies will be the biggest drivers of this revolution.
Far from being impossible to make profitably, EVs will become far more profitable for OEMs than gas and diesel vehicles. It’s true that a lack of charging infrastructure and lack of capacity on the utility grids, along with the vulnerability created by blackouts, will continue to present major challenges to the broad electric vehicle ecosystem, so will the electric requirements of artificial intelligence, data centers, and the electrification of industry. But these are not challenges for Beam Global. These are exactly the sort of opportunities that we’ve developed this fantastic company to exploit.
In fact, as it gets harder and harder to deploy traditional grid-tied EV charging infrastructure, as the EV locations and grid capacity are used up, Beam Global’s products will become increasingly and more urgently required.
Just a quick point on the US election and how it might affect us. I’ve heard it said that if Trump returns to the presidency, we will see a reversal of the IRA funding and a generally negative environment for electric vehicles. I don’t think this is true. More IRA funds are slated for Republican states than Democrat.
Just last week, 18 members of the House of Republican Delegation sent a letter to Speaker of the House Mike Johnson to prioritize business and market certainty around the Inflation Reduction Act.
The group of Republican lawmakers wrote, “Prematurely repealing energy tax credits, particularly those which are used to justify investments that are already broke ground, would undermine private investments and stock development that’s already undergoing. A full repeal would create a worst case scenario where we’d have spent billions of taxpayer dollars and receive nothing in return”. And again, that’s from 18 members of the House Republican delegation to Speaker Mike Johnson.
By the way, I’ve met with 14 of those Republicans during our trips to Washington, DC, and we find them fully appreciate the value proposition of our products, and we’re confident that a Republican-led Congress will not turn its back on energy investments made in the IRA, despite what you may hear on television.
EVs are inevitable for reasons which go way beyond the scope of the President, whoever that turns out to be. Energy security and made-in-America products like ours are popular on both sides of the aisle. I know, because I often meet with more Republican members of government than Democrat and always get a very positive reception.
In summary, we’re continuing to sell great products to a market that needs them. We’re continuing to improve our gross profits. We have cash flow firmly in our sites. We’re expanding our product offerings, our geographic reach, and our selling resources, and we have sufficient cash and other tools to continue executing on this plan without going to the markets to do a race.
2024, with its elections and wars and other tensions and uncertainties, is going to be a difficult year in one way or another for most companies. But Beam Global is taking the necessary steps to get stronger and better and to continue on our trajectory to become a highly profitable, important, and sustainable global provider of the sorts of products and services that will provide an essential role in all of our futures.
Microcaps are trading at 23-year lows. Growth stocks, particularly in the EV and clean technology sectors have been especially hard-hit. However, the inevitability of these industries is no longer in question. We expect that quality companies with quality products and good financial discipline will be rewarded when the cycle turns, as they always have in the past. I believe that Beam Global is just that sort of company, and I’m proud to be part of it.
Thank you for your continued support. Our best days are ahead of us.
And I’ll now return the call to Lisa and the operator to take your questions.
Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Sameer Joshi from HC Wainwright. Please go ahead.
Desmond Wheatley
Hi, Sameer. How are you?
Sameer Joshi
Hey, good, good. How are you? Thanks for taking my questions. Just an interesting development with the British Ministry of Defence. Can you share what is the possible, like the scope and scale of this say contribution from this source in 2025?
Desmond Wheatley
Sorry, Sameer. Can you run that one by me again? I missed that. It broke up a little bit.
Sameer Joshi
Oh, sorry. Can you hear me?
Desmond Wheatley
Yes.
Sameer Joshi
Yeah, the British Army potential orders in 2025.
Desmond Wheatley
Look, I hate to guess at what any of our customers is going to do in the future. Clearly, as I said in my comments, they have the same challenges and requirements that the U.S. military has. The British government has a similar mandate for the electrification of its entire white fleet by 2027. White Fleet meaning non-tactical vehicles. Just on Cyprus alone, there are 650 fleet vehicles there, all of which we’ll have to electrify and that is going to be the case across British government, military and everybody else.
So look, they are going to need an awful lot of EV charging. The British doesn’t – they don’t have as many overseas bases on the scale that the U.S. have by any means, but they have a lot of them. They also have a lot of requirements on the mainland, and our products are very well suited to solving their problems. So, we did an exemplary job. I am really proud of the team that did a fantastic job of both, manufacturing, shipping and delivering in that new market.
You can think of that from a logistics point of view for us. We manufacture those products in our new European facilities and then we ship them overland and across the Mediterranean Sea to an island in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. Then we deploy them successfully on four different military bases in Cyprus without incident. They are up and operating perfectly right now.
So I am very proud of the way that went. That will give that customer indication of the value of these products, the ease of deployment and the security of the electricity. Don’t forget, particularly in overseas bases, you are often relying on the locals for electricity, which is not necessarily the best thing from a strategic or tactical point of view. So we are solving an awful lot of problems with them.
Lastly, I will tell you this. They view the EV charging as almost a boring aspect of this. What they are really interested in is the other power, the e-power panel, the auxiliary power panel we have on these things and their ability to run other systems. Stuff I can’t even go into detail on, but their ability to do a whole lot else with this dispatchable electricity in these types of environments.
So, kind of a long answer to tell you I am very bullish about our prospects with them, but I am not going to put a number on it.
Sameer Joshi
No, no, this was good color. Thanks for that Desmond. In terms of the pipeline that you had, it has grown nicely from, I think, 160 to 183. Can you provide some color on like, is this mostly Amiga-related or Illinois-based or California-based orders? Also, is there – like, how do you track this? Like, what is your conversion rate from pipeline to orders?
Desmond Wheatley
Yeah. The last part of your question is obviously very relevant at the moment. So, just to give you an answer, the majority of the pipeline from a dollar’s point of view, it’s still coming from our sustainable EV charging products. We think that we are going to see a significant increase in that coming from Europe, because of course, we are just beginning to get those products out.
I am going back over there in a couple of weeks to do some more selling and we are going to hit that hard. But we think we’ll see a really big pickup from that. The majority of the pipeline is still coming from our sustainable EV charging infrastructure products.
And then obviously, we are also getting contributions from our battery business in Chicago and then increasingly from the also legacy business. But what I am really excited about is increasing the sustainable EV charging product business in Europe.
The last part of your question is obviously something which is on the point of my attention the whole time, because we’ve got a combination of things going on. The good news is the pipeline is increasing. The bad news is that the backlog is not increasing with it, at least not at the pace that it should be, and so let us confront that head-on.
The simple fact of the matter is that we – as I mentioned in my comments, our Q2 revenues, we generated those revenues absent about $5 million in federal revenues that we had in the same quarter in the prior year. The simple fact of the matter is that our federal orders, particularly federal government orders, have not transitioned from pipeline into backlog. I was going to say, when we expected them to, but I don’t even want to say that. I don’t have expectations about when they do that. They work on their own timeline. So you could say we have seen some stuff move right, no question about that.
We attribute to certain budget uncertainties and probably to some extent to what is going on around the election at the moment. But here is the important thing. We don’t see any of it disappearing. We see it moving right, but we don’t see it disappearing. And so while from a quarter-by-quarter impact point of view, which of course is tremendously important to everybody on this call.
To our customers, federal, state, even municipal customers, they have little or no concern for the beginning or end of quarters, but they do have concern for their long-term infrastructure requirements. And as I say, we are not seeing any of this going away. We are simply seeing it moving right. And that to some extent explains the increasing size of the pipeline without a rational increase in the size of the backlog.
What does that mean? It means what I have been saying in these calls for many quarters. We are going to see this sort of lumpiness from our pipeline to backlog conversion point of view. And it is because as I said, one single large federal order changes everything for us. Nobody is asking us these questions anymore. I am confident that that will happen. I am just not going to put a date on when it will happen, because I don’t control that, that’s all.
Then the question becomes, okay well, what are we doing as a management team to deal with that? We could sit with our face in our hands and say, the feds haven’t ordered like we thought they were going to, therefore we are missing our numbers. Or we can take active and aggressive steps to broaden the funnel and that is what we are doing. That is why you have seen this increase in commercial sales. That is why you have seen us move into large markets like Europe. That is why you see us bringing new products to market, and that is why you see us expanding our sales resources through the integration of the resellers, distributors and sales agents.
All of these moves are designed to increase the size of our funnel, diversify our revenue opportunities and give us more ways to soak up any movement right from some of these large customers. I still believe that all of these sales will come.
I think that we’re – this is a very uncertain year for a whole host of reasons as I pointed out before. There is a great deal of uncertainty in the markets, there’s a great deal of uncertainty geopolitically, and then with the elections and everything else coming, we’ve got uncertainty around that as well. That inevitably makes people less inclined to press the buy button. But again, we are not seeing any of this go away.
So I think it’s just – obviously we’re, as I said in my comments, we are constantly working on closing those big elephants. But more importantly, strategically for us, is making sure that we have a much wider funnel, so that if something does move right, it is backfilled by something else coming in, probably from a different corner of the planet for all we know.
Operator
The next question comes from Craig Irwin from ROTH Capital. Please go ahead.
Andrew Brennan
Hey guys. It actually Andrew on for Craig, but how are you doing?
Desmond Wheatley
Andrew, how are you?
Andrew Brennan
Good. Good. So, you kind of touched on this on the last question here, but I was wondering if you could provide some more detail on what is working so well in the commercial sales, which is kind of helping out smooth revenue recognition quarter-by-quarter.
A – Desmond Wheatley
Yes. I mean, part of its focus. As I’ve said before, you’ll remember. We used to – a very large proportion of our pie, although it was a much smaller pie in those days, was commercial sales and then government took over from that. COVID really shut down our commercial sales efforts. Inevitably, our sales team ended up concentrating more on the places where they were going to make wins, which was government.
Post COVID, we have seen a return to some of these sales on the EV charging side of business. But we are also bringing in revenue from other interesting spots where commercial is concerned. It’s not all coming from the EV charging products.
We are seeing a tremendous return to sales of those types of products into commercial, but also contributions from battery sales and to some extent, the legacy business from Beam Global – Beam Europe, although a lot of that is also government-based and that we are selling street furniture to municipalities and other government agencies.
Some of it’s focused, some of it is just a natural impact to the market. And then a big part of it from an EV charging point of view is, commercial real estate really didn’t care about EV charging until a year ago even, because it doesn’t impact their lease-up times or their tenant retention.
But as we see more and more EVs on the road, we are going to see much more interest on the part of commercial real estate and EV charging. In my opinion, it will become like Wi-Fi. You will not be able to operate a piece of property that has a commercial aspect to it without offering EV charging. And as that happens, we are going to see a lot of increase in demand for EV charging in general.
And we in particular, I believe we’ll see a lot of increase in demand, because most pieces of commercial property simply don’t have sufficient electric circuits and certainly don’t want to be digging up their parking lots and their landscaping and everything like that for months on end, to provide it in a way the government entities might be more insensitive to. All of those things lend themselves very much to growth for us in that space.
While we are happy with the increase in commercial business that we’ve done, that job is nowhere near finished. And I’ve always said, always, even at the times when government revenues were almost 100% of our revenues, I’ve always said that in the end, this will be a consumer and commercial-led deal and the great majority of Beam Global’s revenues will come from consumer and commercial, although not at the expense of absolute dollars from government, from a percentage point of view.
Andrew Brennan
Great. Thanks for the color there. My second question was great to see the second straight quarter of very strong gross margins. You really did a great job parsing out the details there on the call. First off, the two-parter. One, I guess, how much of the backlog do we have to burn through to see the price increases impact our gross margins? And secondly, you talked a bit about the European manufacturing, hypothetically, building the base plates in the EU, 2% to 3% gross margin improvement there. Is that kind of what will drive the further increases after you get to double the 1Q levels that you talked about?
Desmond Wheatley
Yes. So, first thing to point out is actually about 20% of our Q2 EV ARC sales did have the increased price. So, that did contribute, only a fifth of them, but that did contribute and we are rapidly coming to the end of that backlog that we had. There’s a few stragglers left over. So the majority moving forward will include the price increase, so we should benefit from that. Inevitably, because I don’t have the exact number of units we’ve got left in backlog with the pre-pricing.
And I will say this, a couple of our larger contracts, the GSA type contracts and also California DGS contract, it’s harder for us to integrate that new pricing into them. That’s a longer process. And we won’t – we will not turn down sales from them in the meantime. So that could create some stragglers where that’s concerned as well. But moving forward, in general, we’re moving into this new pricing structure and we expect that to be beneficial.
On the savings from Europe, its way beyond theoretical now, or hypothetical I think is the word to use. It’s actual. We actually know because we’ve done it. That we can produce the base price, in particular this one item which happens to be a very expensive part of the EV ARC. It’s the ballast and traction pad, which gives the system its stability in a parking space.
We know for a fact that we can produce those at something like, I don’t know, 6% or 8% lower price impact on our COGs, on our BOM, the BOM aspect of our COGs. But even after shipping them to us across the sea in a container, of course, you can put quite a few of them in a container. We can still pick up this 2% to 3% gross or COGs reduction, gross margin improvement in the U.S. with manufacturing and shipping from our European facilities.
Now, a couple of things come from that. First of all, we’re going to do a lot more of that. We’re going to identify more pieces and parts that we can manufacture in our serving facilities. Because remember, while we have 50,000 square feet under roof here in the U.S., we’ve got 250,000 square feet under roof and acres of land upon which we can inexpensively expand in our Criable [ph] facilities. So they wanted a tremendous amount of room for expansion there.
And one of the things I actually like about this is, the extent that we can pull some of those requirements out of this 50,000 square foot facility in the U.S. What that does, that allows us more opportunity for expansion in this facility without having to expand elsewhere to do that, because we can reduce the number of tasks that are taking place here, but the ones that we can do inexpensively into our European facilities, and then just concentrate on aspects of the manufacturing and assembly that should happen in this facility.
So lots of benefits will come from that, but it’s far from hypothetical. The cost savings are already coming into effect, and we will start receiving the first of those ballast and traction pads in the fourth quarter with that reduction in costs, again, attached to it. So nothing, but good news coming from that, and not hypothetical, actual.
Andrew Brennan
Perfect. Well, that’s great to hear. Congrats on that continued progress. And I’ll hop back in the queue.
Desmond Wheatley
Thank you very much, Andrew.
Operator
The next question comes from Ryan at B. Riley. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst
Hey, Desmond. Thanks for taking the call.
Desmond Wheatley
Hi, Ryan. How are you?
Unidentified Analyst
Good. Thanks. I’ll stick with the margins and congrats on the improvement again this quarter. Wondering, what are the additional levers you can pull to enhance margins further beyond the price increases and international manufacturing capacity as we look to next year and ‘26? Is it mostly scale or are there other areas that you are looking at?
Desmond Wheatley
Yeah, so there’s no question about scale. No question that volume helps us. And again, I know there are, to go back to our previous question about the mix between pipeline and backlog, I know that that’s going to raise some eyebrows and maybe even concern, but I’m not worried about that. I think we, as I said, I know what these orders look like. I personally am confident that this is moving right, not going away. So I think we get that return and increase in volume. That will definitely help us.
Beyond that, we still have elements of engineering and operational improvement, which we still haven’t fully benefited from yet. I think we’re going to see further benefits from our activities in Europe. And then the truth is, you got to remember that we are – we’ve been operating in what for us has been a hyperinflationary environment. I think – don’t quote me on this, but if you want to quote me, double check on this. But I think we’ve seen something north of 30% increase in the prices that we have paid for our BOM since the beginning of the inflationary period back in COVID, 30%.
And if you think about that, what that means is we have absorbed all of those costs and yet brought our gross profit to 16% GAAP, 18% net of non-cash items, which is amortization of intangible asset value resulting from our battery company deal. So we essentially, we’ve absorbed a 30% increase in costs and we’re a BOM heavy company. Labor is a low part of the contribution to our deal.
So absorbed 30% increase in costs due to inflation and yet brought our gross profitability from minus 15% to positive 15% at the same time, which is basically like a 60% improvement in cost reduction when you combine those two things.
We’ve still got more to do. We’re getting better and better at this, engineering improvements, operational improvements. And then the fact that we are now starting to see stabilization in price of components and even reductions in price of components that we integrate.
The chief amongst those would be battery sales. Battery sales dropped precipitously for the first 10 or so years that we made the product. We thought that that was going to continue without stopping. But then when COVID came along, battery sales turned around and started getting more expansive again. We had to absorb all of that. Remember, we never increased our prices during any of this, until this latest price increase, which I’ve expanded on enough for everybody to hear about it. So there’s a combination of things going on, larger market forces at work, but also just most of it’s going to come from our own improvements.
Frankly, the other thing that’s really cool is we’re learning from our Europeans. The truth is they have been doing what we have been doing in this building for the last three or four years, they’ve been doing for 30 years. They are really good at it. It’s just been a great combination, frankly. And so between all of us, we’re going to continue to drive the prices down and I think we’ve still got a lot further to go. I have said in the past that my goal is to get to 50% gross profit, and I’m standing by that goal.
Unidentified Analyst
Great. I really appreciate that additional color. For my follow-up on the BeamSpot, what are the final boxes to check before that hits the market? When do you see that ramping to the point where it becomes a meaningful portion of the overall sales mix?
Desmond Wheatley
That’s the sort of question that I ask around here, Andrew, except you did it without expletives. Bringing a new product to market, particularly a large and complex piece of equipment is always challenging. Nothing ever happens as fast as I want it to.
However, as I said in my comments, I can absolutely report to you that our team in Chicago has now done the integration of the components into the column of the BeamSpot, and that we are in fact doing what we need to do in San Diego to be able to stand the first of those up. We’re going to do the same thing in our European facilities.
The great thing that they will do is, they will give us something real that we can show to people and we intend to do that. It’s one of the big reasons that we selected San Diego over Chicago to do the first installations, because we’ve got a lot of people that we’re going to bring by here. I actually show them the system in operation, charging a car, doing what it needs to do.
I anticipate a couple of things. The first one is, the first prototype systems that we put out will not be anywhere near as good as those that we take to market. We’ve learned a lot putting the first of them together. Our engineering team is fantastic. They model everything out. Everything happens on computer screens before we touch anything physical. But inevitably, when we start making them, we find ways to make them better and less expensive and more efficient than everything else, just as we have done with EV ARC.
We’re going to do that with EV Standard as well, but that will not stop us selling it. The sales cycle we anticipate will be slightly longer with EV Standard than it is in many cases with EV ARC, because we think that the unit sales will be larger and it will be more of a large-scale infrastructure deployment than onesie-twosie sales.
Although, as I said last time, I’m starting to rethink that a little bit, because we do now think that there’s a lot of opportunity for these in parking lots of shopping malls and places like that, where maybe they would buy one or two or three or four of them, and that sales cycle could be a lot shorter. The benefits to them are tremendous, highly visible, rapidly deployed, and all the other things that go along with it.
But let’s – our plan right now is to get the first prototype stood up operating, and then we will start to really aggressively market them here still within this year. Then I think we anticipate that we’ll start to see the first meaningful revenue from them into 2025.
Unidentified Analyst
Great. I appreciate it, Desmond. I’ll turn it back.
Desmond Wheatley
Thank you.
Operator
The next question comes from Noel Parks with Tuohy Brothers. Please go ahead.
Desmond Wheatley
Hi, Noel.
Noel Parks
Hi. How are you doing?
Desmond Wheatley
Okay. I’ve got some jets flying over. Just give me a second here.
Noel Parks
No problem.
Desmond Wheatley
The Miramar flight path I’m on.
Noel Parks
Sure.
Desmond Wheatley
I think that sounds like the last of them disappearing over the horizon.
Noel Parks
Okay. No problem. [Multiple Speakers] Life on the road, I hear you.
I was just thinking about, in terms of your sales and marketing organization, and you mentioned larger sales, there’s been more stakeholders, less certainty of timing. Are those just internal process things that really vendors is generally able to control within a customer? Or do you feel that from your side, you have the resources to move customers along as fast as you can?
And yes, of course, there are cost considerations there about the first one involved in moving it along, the handholding, and the closing and everything. So just, do you feel like those are in balance, what you need and what you can accomplish with just moving customers along?
Desmond Wheatley
Yes. So no, I don’t think they are in balance and that’s why we’re making the changes that we’re making, but let me come back to that. The new selling resources that we’re engaging will not do anything to move our existing backlog along or convert our existing pipeline into backlog. That’s not their purpose at all. Our current sales team has done a fine job of that. Our current sales team is responsible for everything in the $185 million or whatever pipeline that we have right now and for all the revenue that we’ve ever generated.
What’s actually happened, and I actually view this to be one of the most important aspects of our business today as I’m talking to you. What’s happened is, we’ve talked for many years about engaging with resellers and distributors and agents. And in the past, our own processes, our own sales collateral, our own ability to understand the selling cycle and everything else, has not been mature enough to actively engage outside resources, because frankly, we were kind of learning as well while we were going along.
What’s changed is that we now are confident, and the product’s been developing and changing and everything else, right? But what’s changed is that we’re now at a point where we’re confident enough in the product development. We are confident enough in our understanding of the sales cycle, the customer, the types of customers that people are going after. And we are also confident enough in the developed sales collateral, to where we can finally start to engage outside selling resources.
And the reason I’m so excited about this is because, again, go back to what I just said, our internal sales team of four or five people has sold everything that we’ve ever revenued. Imagine how it’s going to be when we’ve got 50 or 100 similar people around the world, telling the same story to the same type of customer prospects that our internal sales people can’t get to, because there aren’t enough hours in the day that you just can’t make that many phone calls. You know, there are 380 million people in the United States of America. How many of them can five salespeople call, right?
And as we look at Europe and those other markets, and this was really what precipitated us starting in Europe with Jesse, is Europe is different to the United States, and that while the EU in particular is one economic block, it’s still very culturally different border to border. Frenchmen are not the same as Germans, are not the same as Spaniards, are not the same as Maltese. It’s as simple as that, and I know that I’ll get letters for making nationalist distinctions or something here, but I’m sure you understand what I’m talking about. And so what we’re determined to do is to find people in those environments.
Jesse, of course, covers Spain, Portugal, and the Spanish speaking Caribbean, because they are already there. They are culturally and linguistically very aligned, and they are already doing business there, and they have all the relationships there and everything else.
Furthermore, I’ve known Jesse for years. I’ve been engaged with him for years and know them to be well connected and a well-organized and good platform. There are several other entities just like Jesse out there. And look at what Jesse’s done. We signed a distributor agreement with them, and we already have an order from them.
This is just a fantastic time for us to multiply up our sales team’s efforts, not impacting current pipeline, not impacting current revenues, adding tremendously to the pipeline. That’s my plan. That’s my intention. And that is my expectation, converting that pipeline to backlog, and doing all of it without adding to our SG&A costs.
So we will not have an increase in operating costs. We will have no increase in cash burden or anything else, but we will have a tremendous increase in resources out there selling our products, and those resources, by the way, get paid when and only when we successfully collect from our customers for the products that they sell.
So it’s a very low risk. Yeah, we’ll have to invest something in a bit of training and giving them sales collateral and all that sort of stuff. Although in Jesse’s case, they actually produce the sales collateral. We just give them guidance on it. But there’ll be some investment of time and energy.
But the simple fact of the matter is we’re going to get a tremendous increase, leveraging off of our selling resources, but without any commensurate increase in our operating and overhead costs. And as I say, outside the technological advances that we’ve made and the acquisitions that we’ve made, this is the most exciting thing that we’ve done for a long time.
Noel Parks
Could you sort of quantify it or just give some sense of pace you would think you would be in a couple of Jesse like organizations as partners, a couple of years or faster than that or it takes more time?
Desmond Wheatley
Sorry, are you talking about our ability to add to those organizations, or are you talking about their ability to sell? I missed that.
Noel Parks
No, I just meant like the agreement you signed with Jesse to get to the next one. Is that a quick process, a slow process?
Desmond Wheatley
Look, I’m going to be very careful not to add anybody to our ecosystem that doesn’t do anything, but a great job for us. So you’ll see us taking a sober approach to this. At the same time, you’ll see an awful lot of effort going into it. And this is really kind of a new thing for us, getting the agreements in place and understanding how we’re going to do this.
So you will see an awful lot of emphasis on it here in the next months and quarters. So in a way, it should be a sort of the reverse hockey stick, where you see quite a lot of activity in the beginning, and then that should trail off as we feel that we’ve got sufficient entities in place that are within our capability of managing them and producing product for them. But no, this is not a year’s thing at all.
In fact, I have given instructions to Sandra Peterson, who runs sales and marketing, that this is her number one priority, is the recruitment of these types of entities to leverage up our selling.
And again, remember, everything that we’ve ever revenued has been sold by four or five people internally. Listen, I love our people. They are great, they do a great job. But lots of other people have great sales teams too. And I’m looking forward to having them out there telling our story.
I think we’ve got time for one more question. So you beat me to it. I’m just getting the signal here, we’ve got time for one more.
Operator
The next question comes from Tate Sullivan from Maxim Group. Please go ahead.
Desmond Wheatley
Hello, Tate.
Tate Sullivan
Thank you. Hello. Just to call up, on the BeamSpot, did I hear – are you planning to introduce it/roll it out in both the U.S. and Europe? Is that what you said? Okay.
Desmond Wheatley
Yes, U.S. and Europe.
Tate Sullivan
Okay.
Desmond Wheatley
Actually no, we should be able to introduce it in ‘24, but I anticipate revenues from both markets in ‘25.
Tate Sullivan
Okay. And then you mentioned some sales for the legacy business for Beam Europe. Have you had a selling to their existing customers? Have you already I imagine. Sorry, I missed that comment.
Desmond Wheatley
Yes, we are. We are definitely aggressively selling to existing customers, the new – both the legacy and the new products. And as I said in my comments, we have growth in the legacy business. We’ve been able to help them. They are very, very good at what they do, but they’ve operated their business entirely on a cash basis as a typical of a sole proprietorship. And so we’ve actually been able to help them leverage up the business a little bit in terms of having the right types of inventory on hand, to be able to execute faster on deployments and that sort of stuff.
So we’ve seen growth in the legacy business. We expect to continue to see that. We’re going to go after that more aggressively than ever, because it is a perfect lead in for all the other products that we’re going to sell them, but also because we can do it profitably.
Tate Sullivan
Great. Thank you Desmond.
Desmond Wheatley
Thanks Tate.
Operator
This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Desmond Wheatley for closing remarks.
Desmond Wheatley
Okay, thank you very much and thanks for the excellent questions. If we didn’t get to you, please feel free to call us directly or email us or whatever else. And I know I follow-up calls with most of the analysts after this. So don’t worry if you had a question and we didn’t get to it.
Look, I think that the main thing that aside from all the excellent stuff that we’re doing, the main thing that we all focus on here today was that increasing pipeline without the backlog being there. I knew that would raise eyebrows. As I said, I’m confident that we’re going to make that conversion. It is a kind of a weird year, but everything’s telling me things are moving right, not going away.
And again, the management team here, in fact, the entire team at Beam Global is taking all the active and aggressive steps that we need to take to broaden our funnel and that’s going to pay off for us. It’s already paying for paying off for us. The orders that we’re seeing, the deployments for the MOD that would not have happened had we not made that effort to broaden our geographic reach there. The order that we received from Jesse would not have happened if we hadn’t made those efforts. And so the efforts are paying off and they are going to continue to do so.
These will – I don’t believe that we’re talking about dividing into the same size pie here. I think that these will all be accreted to what we’re doing. And yes, we’ve seen a bit of lumpiness, we’re going to. But the general trend is onward and upward. And at the same time, we’re taking very active and aggressive steps to make sure that we are acquiring as many appropriate targets as possible, so bear with us on that. As I said, I’m very comfortable that our best days are ahead of us and we’re a far better company than we’ve ever been in our history.
One other thing that we have not talked about just very briefly is we’re coming at the end of our ERP integration. That’s been a major job of work for us here. But it’s also been very helpful in terms of our getting access to the numbers and being able to do good analysis on the business. And these things also contribute to our margin improvements, because we know where to target and we’re getting better and better at things.
And as a final comment, I’ll just put a quick shout out to Lisa Potok and our team, because here we are filing a couple of days before we have to, in contrast to our full year and first quarter when, as you know we used our extension. We weren’t late, but we used our extensions. But for those of you that were aware, that was a chronic condition, Lisa’s got things under control and we’re – here we are a couple of days in advance of time. So thank you for that, Lisa.
And thanks lastly to the entire Beam team and to everybody that supports us. I love this company and I’m more enthusiastic than ever. Thank you.
Operator
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